Ashley: Your
first album became quite a phenomenon in the Canadian Underground.
Dawn Of The Suffering was entirely self-released, self-produced,
and you also arranged all the artwork, were there any major
setbacks, problems, or helping hands along the way?
George: As far as any major problems go, I can’t
really say that there were any at all. The creation/writing
and arranging of the songs for D.O.T.S.
went quite smooth actually. The only real problem at the time
was of course money due to the fact that as you stated that
I funded the entire thing, from the studio time, to the CD pressing
and manufacturing, to releasing it on my own, to the promotion,
and a lot more. That was the main reason it took me three years
to release the first DE record. I had material
written for DE at the time as far back as when
I started the band in 1997 and the record wasn’t recorded
or released until the middle of 2000, so that was the only real
“problem”, if you want to call it that, because
in a way it benefited me as I was able to take that time to
make the songs as dark, powerful, and strong as I could and
also allowed me time to grow as a musician and a song writer
as well, and in comparison to the wait time for the record,
to me that growth and experience was essential. As far as help
along the way, when it came to the creation of the music, there
was none, all of that was me, and I played every instrument
(and continue to do so to this very day) on the record. As far
as the recording, Stew Kirkwood (the recording engineer for
both D.O.T.S. and Satanchrist)
helped in a big way as far helping me achieve a decent sound
for the record; he was such a great guy to work with. As far
as promotion, I had help from various distro’s and labels
at the time, so that helped get the name of DE
out into the underground at a time when nobody knew of the band,
including in my own home country of Canada, and also I can’t
forget all the underground fanzines/webzines that were in total
support of DE and really exposed the name of
the band, so I will always be grateful to the ones that supported
the band back then, and the many that do today as well.
Ashley: DARKNESS
ETERNAL appeared on BW&BK's compilation CD Knuckletracks
XXIV (Sept. 2000). That’s quite a feat for an unsigned
band! Did you choose the track or was this released without
your knowledge?
George: Yes, I chose the track for the CD, and I paid
for it fully as well, so you can just mark that under the promotion
costs I spoke of in the previous question as well haha! At the
time the band had a real good buzz going and someone who worked
for BW&BK heard D.O.T.S. and really
liked it, so he recommended that I get on the next issue of
the BW&BK Knuckletracks compilation CD, he told me it would
really get DE’s music all over the world.
So I did, and to be honest as expensive as it was to get on
there, I’m glad I did it because it did help get the band
name out there somewhat, plus I almost scored a real good record
deal with a “bigger” metal label because they heard
the track on that CD, and even though the deal ended up falling
through, overall I think it was the right move at the time to
make for the betterment of the band, so no regrets at all there.
Ashley: After
having quite a success with Dawn Of The Suffering,
Satanchrist was released and it not only became a fast-seller
but it later revived quite a lot of credit among the underground
scene. DARKNESS ETERNAL was named best unsigned/self-released
band of 2002 by Vae Solis Webzine, Satanchrist was
named best self-released CD and rated #12 on the Top 50 releases
of 2001-02 by Vae Solis. How did you react to all of the hype
so to speak?
George: To be honest I was completely blown away by
it at the time, I couldn’t believe the incredible reviews
and press that Satanchrist was receiving!
Satanchrist is the record that really
catapulted DE in many ways, but the most important
one was that it was really where I found my niche and really
solidified my own dark, twisted, and original style, and I think
to this day you can listen to that record and say it sounds
like DARKNESS ETERNAL, even if you can hear
the influences here and there, it was more original than the
previous record D.O.T.S., and that’s
something that to this day I am real proud of, because I always
strove to make something unique while being as dark as possible
at the same time. And lucky for me that it was recognized in
a very positive way, as at the time I remember thinking how
much I loved that record, but at the same time realizing that
it may be too out there and dark for a lot of people and that
it would totally bomb, but as it turns out the opposite happened.
Satanchrist opened up a lot of doors
for me outside of DE musically speaking, and
I did a lot of things that I never thought I would do because
of the response that record got and it was also the reason that
Autopsy Kitchen Records signed me. I think the best thing of
all regarding the response of that record for me is that some
people have told me it is one of their favorite records of all
time and some have gone as far as to say it is a classic, and
to me that is the biggest compliment I can ever get, something
I am real appreciative of for sure! All of that aside though,
I am most proud that I made the record that I wanted to make
at the time, and I can look back and be proud of that, and the
same goes for D.O.T.S. as well.
Ashley: In
2003 you moved to the US, what made you decide on moving to
the states and of all the many places in the US did you choose
South Carolina, a cultural wasteland?
George: Well, the original reason I wanted to move
to the US was for the betterment of the band so that I could
try to take it to higher levels, and to be around more metal
in general. So I originally went to the US in 2001 to see what
it was like, and although it was a bit different for me personally,
the metal scene at the time was killer, there was a lot more
going on in US at the time than there was where I was living
in Edmonton AB, Canada. But things didn’t work out like
I had planned so I left and went back to Canada and didn’t
make the actual move here until late 2003. By then, things went
in reverse, as I left Edmonton, it was becoming better and better
for metal and they started getting way more shows and the scene
grew, while here, the scene was going to complete shit and shows
stopped coming to SC. By then I already had the arrangements
made to come here and I went through A LOT of bullshit for that,
plus I got into a few stupid situations back home at the time
so it was a good time to leave all that behind. Well, believe
me when I say that I would much rather live somewhere other
than South Carolina, but this is where my job brought me so
I didn’t have a choice in that matter. Of course it’s
no secret that death metal doesn’t always pay the bills
(and it was not and never will be the reason why I do it) so
I have to pay for the bills and the metal somehow, so there
you go hehe! The move proved to be the right one for the band
as I am doing better with DE currently than
ever before, from a personal standpoint that’s a different
story though. I guess in the end I have to take the pros with
the cons, financially and metal-wise I’m in a better situation
than I’ve ever been in, personally, I’m miserable
as fuck, but then again I’ll always be miserable so I
guess I can’t really win there anyway.
Ashley: A
while after you relocated, Autopsy Kitchen Records offered you
a recording contract to release Misanthropic Annihilation,
your third and most unrelenting work so far. Were there any
major differences recording an album with a record label behind
you and when you had to finance the recording on your own? Obviously
it was a major financial help, but did it make you feel different?
More confident, etc...
George: Thanks for the great words on the new record,
I really appreciate them! Honestly, no, there was no difference
at all. Actually, the whole story behind getting signed to release
Misanthropic Annihilation is a bit
of a strange one in that I got signed by AKR three weeks before
I was to hit the recording studio to lay the initial tracks
down, it was just real good (and lucky for me) timing. The record
had already been fully written and ready to record, and originally
I was going to release and fund Misanthropic Annihilation
all on my own again, the exact same way as I did the other two,
which is one of the reasons why there was yet another three
and half year gap between Satanchrist
and Misanthropic Annihilation, because
it took me that long to get everything in order financially
to prepare to put the new record out. So I was getting ready
to hit the studio and at the same time talking with Jonzig,
who did the artwork for Misanthropic Annihilation
(and Satanchrist as well) about the
concept for the artwork, when out of nowhere AKR got a hold
of me and offered me the deal. After some lengthy discussion
we came to agreeable terms, and the rest is history. So while
the signing to AKR took some load off my back financially (I
still paid for the recording costs myself), the bigger issue
was that they could promote the record and get it out there
a lot more efficiently and widely than I ever could on my own,
and they are true metal heads with true metal ambitions, so
in that sense it took a load off, but as far as making me feel
different or more confident, not at all. Misanthropic
Annihilation would have come out the same way
with or without label backing, but I am definitely glad things
worked out the way they did, as it now puts DE
in its best position to date since the inception of the band,
and hopefully things will continue to go well.
Ashley: You
went to Sound Lab Studios in Columbia, SC, where all the Nile
albums were recorded. What made you decide on using this studio?
George: It was a combination of things. It started
with me looking for a studio to record in since I was still
pretty unfamiliar with SC and the surrounding states. Obviously
for the new record, I wanted to get the best sound I possibly
could, but I didn’t want it to be too polished either.
So after narrowing it down to three studios with Sound Lab being
one of them, I had remembered that Nile recorded all of their
full lengths there and they got a good sound on all their records
in my opinion, I especially liked the drum sound on In Their
Darkened Shrines, and since I am real anal about drum sounds,
that played a big factor for sure. Then my metal brother Krieshloff,
the guitarist for Lecherous Nocturne had told me about the studio
and how high quality it was, and after listening to various
different death metal albums recorded there (including all of
Nile’s), I decided that was definitely the studio to go
to. So I called Bob (Moore, the engineer/owner) and after a
few discussions I was totally sold, he completely put me at
ease about everything, from how to get a great drum sound to
a killer guitar and bass sound, and it turns out that going
to Sound Lab was one of the best decisions I had ever made,
as you can see by the amazing production on Misanthropic
Annihilation!
Ashley: Bob
Moore (Sound Lab) really knows what he is doing. The production
was impeccable! This album is by far the best work you have
done so far. He did a great job making this album with you.
Can you describe some unforgettable events down in Columbia?
George: Again thanks for the killer words on the new
record! I absolutely agree with you 100% on everything that
you stated above. Bob is a master at his craft and when it comes
to getting the sound that an individual is looking to achieve
he is spot on. He got everything to sound very close, and in
most cases even better than I wanted, and that had never happened
to me before. I will say right now that the guitar sound on
Misanthropic Annihilation is by far
the best guitar tone, crunch, and sound that I have ever gotten
on any recording I have ever done, and that includes recordings
outside of DE! In fact, it is one of the best
guitar tones I’ve heard on any record period, and I’m
not just saying that because it’s my record haha! Yeah,
there were quite a few unforgettable events down in Columbia
for sure! The first one that comes to mind is when I went down
to finish the guitar tracking and Bob had asked me if he could
run an a few errands real quick before we began, so I told him
no problem. So we go and run the errands, and we decide to go
to a Thai restaurant there that we would usually go to catch
a bite to eat before heading back to the studio to record. So,
just as we get to the restaurant to eat, he notices his cell
phone is missing, and he was asking me if I had seen it and
I told him I didn’t, so we start scavenging the van looking
for it and we can’t find it anywhere! So then we leave
the restaurant, we went backwards to every place we had been
too previously to see if he left the phone at any of them. Turns
out no one had found it, so now he’s dumbfounded as to
where it could be and then the possibility of him leaving somewhere
and someone taking it came into effect. So I tell him to call
his phone and see if it rings or if anyone answers. He told
me he had the phone turned off. Sure enough when he calls, it
rings a ton of times and no one answers. So now that it is apparent
that the phone was stolen, we quickly hurry to the Verizon wireless
store to cancel that phone before the culprit used it to make
a bunch of long distance phone calls, and in the process he
had to purchase a new phone because it was necessary that he
had one. He was pissed the rest of the day after that because
someone had stolen his phone, and anyone that knows Bob knows
how cool and mellow he is, so it’s rare for him to get
like that. I felt real bad for him at the time, but looking
back and all the shit we went through that day, I guess we can
laugh at it now, well, at least I can (sorry brother hehe!).
There was also the time during one of my last sessions there
mixing the album, where Bob and I stayed up almost over twenty-four
hours STRAIGHT mixing the songs with I think only two short
breaks in between, and me almost falling asleep on the road
driving STRAIGHT to work from the studio on no sleep!! I remember
after it was all said and done I went forty-two hours straight
no sleep! All in all, the entire experience was a pleasant and
unforgettable one, and I am so grateful to Bob, not only for
the amazing job he did, but for being such a great listener
and such a great guy to work and hang out with. Definitely the
best recording experience I have ever had, and I hope that I
can work with him again real soon!
Ashley: Are
there any plans on getting a line-up together and doing a tour?
I know I'd love to hear you live!
George: It’s funny because apparently a lot of
people share your sentiment lately; I have gotten more requests
to play live in the last three months than in the entire history
of the band I think! Well, right now there aren’t any
set plans on getting a line-up together mainly for two reasons.
The first being that at this point of the band, the only reason
for me to put a live line up together would be for a tour, so
unless I get a serious offer to do a tour, I don’t really
see the point of getting people together, because for recording
purposes I don’t need anyone but myself. The second reason
would be that it would be extremely hard for me to find three
other people that are into this style of DARK death/doom metal
like I am (especially in SC!), and I have always said that if
I can’t find people that are willing to give it their
all, 120% for the band, and for METAL in general, then there
would be no point at all. If I ever did have a line up, I would
make it very clear to everyone involved that DARKNESS
ETERNAL is and always will be about creating and playing
the darkest death metal the we can play and create, and they
will have to be 100% into the sound and style of DE,
because I can assure you that I will not change my sound and
style for anyone, no matter what! Not many people understand
that METAL is a way of life for people like me, not just something
I’ve been into for years and it will one day just go away,
and there is only a small percentage of “metal heads”
that comprehend this. So all I can say at this point is we’ll
see. I don’t want to say that it won’t ever happen,
but like I said, unless there is an overwhelming demand to see
DE live and I get tour support from somewhere,
and then I don’t see it happening anytime soon.
Ashley: You
have been playing session bass for Chicago band The Chasm for
quite a while now-what is it like playing for these guys? Were
you a fan before you joined up with them? Do you plan on becoming
a full-time member? And are you going on tour with them anytime
soon? What is it like playing for a band that is so far away?
How do you learn all the material in time to go on tour with
them? How did you get hooked-up with these guys anyway?
George: It’s been absolutely amazing!! It has
been the best experience of my life and there is no way I can
put into words how awesome it has been to play with The Chasm,
but I will say that I have nothing but good memories from my
experiences with them so far and I am very grateful for that.
Yes, I was definitely a huge fan even before I knew them personally;
in fact I am probably the biggest The
Chasm
fan that exists in the world today. Anyone that knows me knows
much I love The
Chasm,
so there is no point going on and on about it here, but they
are my favorite band of all time, so needless to say it is an
enormous honor to be playing with them right now, beyond a dream
come true! I mean very few people can say that they have met
their favorite bands, let alone played along side with them.
Aside from that, they are all great friends of mine, especially
Daniel (Corchado, guitarist/vocalist), he is one of my best
friends and the most metal human being you will ever meet, his
passion, determination, and will are so strong and I have so
much respect for him, and the rest of the guys as well. As for
me becoming a full-time member, I don’t have answer to
that. It’s up to them really, I mean Daniel has stated
many times that he no longer wants a permanent bass player for
the band since they have gone through a few guys in the past
eight years, now whether his mind has changed on that I don’t
know. They know that whenever they need me I am always there
for them, so for now I will remain strictly session, and I am
more than happy to do so. I will be playing with them one more
time, for the Heathen Crusade Metalfest in Minneapolis, MN USA
on January 21st, 2006, for more info on that you can visit the
Heathen Crusade website at http://www.heathencrusade.com
or The
Chasm’s
official website at http://www.enterthedeathcult.com,
and if more dates are added in addition to that, going to either
the DE website or
The
Chasm’s
website is where you will find out more. The distance isn’t
really a big problem as I fly there every time I go and being
in SC I am only about a two hour flight away, and as for learning
the material, they tell me what songs they want me to learn
about one and half to two months in advance and I learn them
all here at home note for note, I practice my ass off to get
as tight as I can, and then a few days before the shows I go
to Chicago and we rehearse about two or three times together
and that’s that, we hit the road after. As for how I got
hooked up with them, as I stated before Daniel is one of my
closest friends, so back in 2003 they were without a bass player
and he asked me if I could play some shows with them, and I
of course told them I would, and the rest is history. They needed
me again for the Sabbat tour in September 2005 and as I said
before I will be playing with them for the Heathen Crusade Metalfest
and whenever else they need me again.
Ashley: What
is your favorite band of all time?
George: Well, I answered this in the previous question
(sorry!), but the answer again is The
Chasm.
They are the most original, unique, and obscure band I’ve
ever heard. They incorporate every element of metal that I love,
for me they are the ultimate band, the total package so to speak!
They have always been so ahead of their time and to me they
are already legends, even if they are still active. Their music
has helped get me through the darkest times of my life, and
their music will always hold a special place in my heart. I
do also have to mention a few more bands that have affected
me in a big way: Incantation, Immolation, Fallen Christ, Possessed,
and Autopsy, who are all legends in their own right and have
influenced my music, and lately I am totally hooked on the newer
Deathspell Omega releases, absolutely brilliant stuff!
Ashley: Least
favorite band?
George: Well, this is actually the one question that
I won’t answer, simply because I firmly believe that negative
press is just as good as positive press, so by stating which
band I hate the most, I am still acknowledging them, and I’ve
always believed that to make something bad go away, you must
simply ignore it altogether, so that’s exactly what I
am going to do. Plus there are so many terrible bands out there
plaguing what’s left of the underground scene, for every
good band there are a thousand more that suck, so I don’t
know if I could actually sit there and come up with answer if
I wanted to haha!
Ashley: What
is the best live show you have ever seen?
George: That’s a tough question, but if I had
to pick one I would say the very first time I saw The
Chasm
live at CBGB’s in New York City, NY on June 10th, 2001.
For those who have never seen The
Chasm
live, it is quite the experience, total pure and raw emotion,
you can tell that they love what they do, they are to this day
the best live band I have ever had the pleasure of seeing so
anyone reading this that ever has the chance to see them live,
don’t pass it up! The other bands on that bill were killer
as well, Diabolic (R.I.P.) played, as did Evoken, Nunslaughter,
Grand Belial’s Key, The Ravenous, Mayhem, and a few more.
It was just a killer show all around, and definitely worth the
trip and all the money I spent on it, since at the time I was
still living in Edmonton, AB Canada and I flew seven hours just
to see The
Chasm
perform. It was an experience I’ll never forget!
Ashley: What
about the worst live show?
George: That’s actually another tough one; I
don’t know that I can pick just one show there. Basically
to me, any band that’s on stage and that just sits there
looking bored and doesn’t move at all, even if their music
is good, that ruins the whole experience for me, I fucking hate
that more than anything. I also hate seeing any non-metal band
playing a metal gig, and even worse a non-metal band claiming
to be a metal band while they are wearing purple Sesame Street
shirts and tight fucking jeans with stupid homosexual comb-overs.
Fuck, just talking about it is making me sick, next question
haha!
Ashley: What
are your top 5 favorite albums of all time?
George: There is no way I can name just five albums,
there are so many that I can call my favorites so I’m
going to cheat on this one and name some of my all time favorite
albums, each one of these has affected me in a different way,
but the effect has been everlasting:
THE CHASM – all
IMMOLATION – all
INCANTATION – Onward To Golgotha, Mortal Throne Of Nazarene,
Diabolical Conquest
FALLEN CHRIST – Abduction Ritual
AUTOPSY – all
POSSESSED – Seven Churches, Beyond The Gates
BULLDOZER - all
SLAYER – Show No Mercy, Hell Awaits
NUCLEAR DEATH – Bride Of Insect, Carrion For Worm, …For
Our Dead
VOIVOD – War And Pain, Rrroooaaarrrr!, Killing Technology,
Dimension Hatross
DEICIDE – Deicide, Legion, Once Upon The Cross
MORBID ANGEL – Altars Of Madness, Blessed Are The Sick
DEATHSPELL OMEGA – Si Monumentum Requires Circumspice,
Kenose, Crushing The Holy Trinity – Side Father
DISCIPLES OF MOCKERY – Prelude To Apocalypse
RITES OF THY DEGRINGOLADE – all
WORSHIP – Last CD Before Doomsday
THERGOTHON – all
EVOKEN - all
ANCIENT WISDOM – all
VED BUENS ENDE – Written In Waters
CONQUEROR – War Cult Supremacy
ANGEL CORPSE - all
BATHORY – Bathory, The Return
BLASPHEMY – Fallen Angel Of Doom
IMMORTAL – Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism, Blizzard Beasts
EMPTY – A Source Of Hollow Essence
And many more!
Ashley: Top
5 best albums to head bang to?
George: Damn you with all your difficult inquiries
haha! Again, naming just five is almost impossible, but here
are some that come to mind right now:
THE CHASM – The Spell Of Retribution
BULLDOZER – The Day Of Wrath
POSSESSED – Seven Churches
NUNSLAUGHTER – Goat
SLAYER – Hell Awaits
METAL CHURCH – Metal Church
DISCIPLES OF POWER – Power Trap
EXORCIST – Nightmare Theatre
GRAVE – Into The Grave
VENOM – Welcome To Hell
Ashley: What is in your CD Changer right now?
George: Today I’ve been raping my ears with DEATHSPELL
OMEGA – Kenose, EXORCIST – Nightmare Theatre, RITES
OF THY DEGRINGOLADE – An Ode To Sin, CRUCIFIX –
Where Angels Rot, LECHEROUS NOCTURNE – Pre-productions
tracks from their upcoming new album Adoration Of The Blade,
and THE CHASM – various songs, listening to those for
obvious reasons.
Ashley: In
5 words or less describe the sound of DARKNESS ETERNAL.
George: Original DARK depressive death metal
Ashley: Is
there anything else you would like to say to your fans out there?
George: I want each every one of you to know that I
truly appreciate your support for DARKNESS ETERNAL
and its cause; it means a lot to me! I have created and always
will create these dark twisted hymns for myself, but I release
them for you guys. You are all the reason DE
is where it is today, and without you that wouldn’t have
happened, so eternal gratitude to you all!
Ashley: Thanks
so much for taking the time to answer my questions and thanks
for giving my stereo a kick in the teeth!! \m/
George: Eternal gratitude to you Ashley and Nocturnal
Hall for the great support of DARKNESS ETERNAL,
it is much appreciated! For all the updates/news on DE,
MP3’s of the new songs, and other relevant information,
please visit the new website and anyone out there that doesn’t
have a copy of Misanthropic Annihilation,
you can get straight through me at the DE website,
through my current label Autopsy Kitchen Records,
or through various distro’s world wide. You can also get
DE shirts in support of the new album and more
merchandise straight through me via the DE
website as well. Finally, DE has a website
on MySpace now so people who frequent MySpace can go there and
listen to various DE MP3’s as well. DARKNESS
ETERNAL is back with a dark vengeance, Darkness Conquers
All!!!