Hardly
a Metalhead has never encountered OPETH let alone has
never heard the name before. They have iron one more iron in
the fire with Watershed, which heralds another chapter
in the track record of the friendly Swedes.
To promote the album, the band has been sent on tour, strengthened
by the Noise rockers The Ocean and the progressive Jazz Rockers
Cynic, at which afforded us the opportunity to natters as an
exception not with band figurehead Mikael ?kerfeldt, but with
the keyboard player Per Wiberg. One hour admittance, the charming
Roadrunner staff member Theresa leads me into one of the backstage
rooms and a relaxing and funny half an hour afterwards, the
interview is already over...
Haris:
First of all, I’d like to congratulate you on your not
that fresh new CD Watershed. Well then, let’s start
immediately.
To me, there is an obvious line that divides the mellow and
the heavy side in the sound of Watershed while you mixed
both styles more on Ghost Reveries, it sounds more homogenous
to me – which is not meant negative.
Per: Well, a lot say this is true, actually. I think, the
transitions between the two parts, like the heavy and mellow
stuff were maybe a little bit more easy, if that’s the
right word, I don’t know, while on this album [Author’s
note: Watershed] it’s almost like you get
thrown into each part (laughs).
Haris:
Something, which is evident to me, is the role of the keyboards
on Watershed. There is more room for them, e.g. you have solo
parts like in Hex Omega. Was this tendency of having
the keys become an equal and not just a background instrument
planned before you started songwriting?
Per: I don’t know, but I would say that it’s
a production thing as well, as well as a mixing thing. To be
honest, I played less on this album compared to what I did on
Ghost Reveries but I think it’s maybe a
little bit more evident in the final mix
Haris:
It’s generally known that OPETH is Mikael’s baby
and that he is the main songwriter. But considering the fact
that two members joined the band after Ghost Reveries, did this
affect the songwriting somehow or is the rest of the band not
really involved into the writing process?
Per: I wouldn’t say it affected the songwriting as
much but I would say, like, the songwriting itself, it shows
definitely how the songs are performed. And I think, “Axe”
is a very fast learner and he’s a very dedicated drummer.
It has never happened that the drums have been recorded as fast
as this time in OPETH’s history. He just backs
it up and he’s very consistent and accurate as a player.
And the same goes for Fredrik, I would say, although, since
he’s a fantastic lead guitar player, the leads, they are
his obviously. So, in that sense I guess it affected the song
writing a little bit.
Haris:
I guess also, for Fredrik has a totally different style compared
to Mikael’s kind of playing leads. So this is something
that makes him even more important for OPETH. Peter was also
a great guitar player but to me, he was very close to Mikael’s
style, so Fredrik definitely is a bonus for OPETH.
Per: Yeah, that’s true!
Haris:
I have to admit that I was curious how OPETH would sound like
with “Axe” on drums because, to me, Martin Lopez
has always been one of the best drummers ever in this genre
and his influence on the OPETH records was, to me, immense and
very important. But, I would have never expected that “Axe”
could replace him in such a brilliant way.
Per: Well, he’s a better drummer than Lopez was (laughs).
So, it’s easy… Well, it’s different. We get
such questions a lot like “What about this new sound?”
or whatever. But, everyone’s different people, you know,
everyone plays differently, so… I mean, I don’t
think it’s about replacing as much, you know, it’s
just about welcoming in new elements.
Haris:
… while the basics stay the same…
Per: … yeah!
Haris:
How did the split affect the band atmosphere since both Martins
were very close friends?
Per: I think, to have Fredrik and “Axe” in the
band affected the band in such way that everyone enjoys being
on the road. Even though Lopez and Peter are nice guys, you
know. But it’s so, when you know that someone doesn’t
wanna be there, it sort of drags you down. So, now, we have
five guys that want to be here and play all the time even though
Lopez and Peter enjoyed the music as much as anyone else. They
were really into it, too.
Haris:
Then maybe I can ask this question now which was planned for
the end of the interview… Do you still have contact with
Martin and Peter?
Per: Personally I don’t… (laughs) because I’m
a bad person… No… (laughs) But I know what they
are doing. I think it’s, among all of us, Mikael who’s
got the most of the contact with those guys actually, especially
with Peter. I just hope that they are enjoying what they are
doing now, you know. I wish them all the luck.
Haris:
Now, a question about the general recording process with OPETH
because, as far as I remember, you have never invited any orchestra
musicians or something like that. Is this maybe something you
planned for the nearer future?
Per: Well, you know, Mikael was interested in using proper
instruments for certain parts instead of playing them with the
keys. So, this time, there was a violinist, a flutist, we used
an English Horn and a little bit of this and that. And, I think,
it sounds cool because proper, real instruments always sound
better than samples. It doesn’t matter which one. I think,
it always sounds better. So it was for the better.
Haris:
Something, which I really enjoyed a lot, was your small joke
at the end of Burden. I have this picture in front of my eyes
when listening to the track that Mikael plays the acoustic guitar
and someone sits beside him and starts to detune one string
after the other. Was it this way?
Per: Yes, Fredrik did that!
Haris:
Wow, that’s great, because I wasn’t sure you did
it that way or maybe the part was recorded as it should be and
you put effects on the track afterwards.
Per: No, no. Fredrik did that while Mikael was playing.
Haris:
Well, that was a great idea! Now, a short question about the
fact, that this is your 2nd album recorded for Roadrunner Records.
How is the collaboration with them? Are you pleased with their
support?
Per: I would say so! I think this band has never had such
an exposure as we’ve had during the time with Roadrunner.
So, so far so good! You know, it’s a record label like
anyone else. They happened to do a pretty good job for us.
Haris:
Okay, now something more personal. I was really into Ad Astra
[Author’s note: Spiritual Beggars’ fifth record
released 2000 featuring Per on keyboards] when it came out.
I haven’t heard anything from the Spiritual Beggars for
a while. Sure, Michael [Author’s note: Amott, guitarist
and main songwriter of Spiritual Beggars] has toured with Carcass
and is busy with Arch Enemy and stuff. So, is there any free
space for the Spiritual Beggars?
Per: Um, no… (laughs) No, we haven’t done anything
since the last album that was released in 2005 [Author’s
note: the album is called Demons]. And that was the last time
we played together as well. We did a short tour in Japan and
a gig in the UK all about the Demons album. So, it’s really
hard to find a window to get together for that.
Haris:
I mean, you are also busy as well… Is there any other
side project you are involved in or do you plan something like
a solo record in the near future?
Per: I always do lots of things.
Haris:
More like guest appearances?
Per: You know, I’ve worked as a session musician since
’89. And when we’re off the road with OPETH
I play with friends, bands and artists in Sweden usually. I
recently did record an album with some friends of mine in the
US, from a band called Clutch. They have their alter ego band
called Bakerton Group, which is Clutch, but they play instrumental
music. And they recorded a new album, so I played keys on that.
I’ve done an album with JP who is the drummer in Clutch
called King Hobo with two other guys from Sweden. I’ve
done a couple of albums with my own thing called Mojobone. But
I only play the guitar on that one.
Haris:
So, you are an as talented musician as almost every second Swede…
Per: I don’t know if I’m talented. I just like
playing music, you know… (laughs)
Haris:
Are these projects also worth checking out for Metal fans?
Per: If you like Rock music in general… I mean, it
doesn’t sound like Testament or anything. It’s just
groovy hard Rock. If you’re into Beggars, it’s worth
checking out. If you’re into OPETH… I don’t
know. It depends on what you listen to and how open minded you
are.
Haris:
Well, we already talked slightly about the time schedule with
OPETH, especially yours, Mikael’s and “Axe”’s
one. Both are in Bloodbath and “Axe” is still a
member of Witchery…
Per: Yes, he is.
Haris:
This is really an immense number of side projects or other bands
and moreover, Bloodbath is really successful worldwide…
Are there any conflicts with OPETH or do you plan your schedules
accurately?
Per: OPETH has the top priority like for everyone.
So everything else has to fit in the gaps between the OPETH
activities. Well, with Witchery you have the same problem there
since Jensen is in The Haunted and Sharlee is in Arch Enemy,
so… (laughs).
Haris:
… and the Björler brothers do the At The Gates reunion…
Per: … exactly!
Haris:
Don’t know, how far this reunion will go… I hope
they’ll do a new record… So, you mentioned already
that you did a Japan tour with Spiritual Beggars a couple of
years ago. Well, I guess this question is not that relevant,
but I’d still like to ask you something about touring
in general. I always thought you were more like someone who
prefers to be at home and to spend your time recording and producing
stuff and not to be on the road all the time. So how do you
handle this and did you get used to the tour life which takes
a lot of time actually?
Per: I don’t really have any problems with that. I
mean, since basically, to me, Rock music is meant to be played
live. So, that’s what I like to do and that’s my
thing even though I haven’t played with OPETH more
than five years now, I’ve pretty much been on tour since
the late eighties. That’s what I’ve always done.
I started playing in clubs and did Scandinavian tours when I
was sixteen.
Haris:
To me, it’s something very special with Sweden. This year
I was in Gotland first time with a university class and it was
impressing – all the country actually. We spent there
just one week but it was so amazing. I simply can’t believe
that someone who comes from Sweden doesn’t have the longing
for coming home as soon as possible.
Per: I think that everyone has the longing for coming back.
Everyone wants to be at home. But actually, this is what we
are doing and I don’t think about it like that. I’m
fine being here (laughs). Sweden will always be there, you know.
Gotland is very beautiful though. And I like it there. But I
think I enjoy being on the road more than being at home because
then I get restless and I wanna go out and play gigs every day
(laughs).
Haris:
Like, when you decide for a professional musician’s life
then you have to calculate with being on the road more than
at home.
Per: That’s always the problem for many musicians
or generally many people – it doesn’t matter what
you work with. If you travel a lot and spend a long time away
from home, it’s always gonna be a problem with the family
and all that.
Haris:
Now something I always like to read in interviews – this
is more like a trivial question, but still worth asking. I mean,
OPETH doesn’t build up on modern trends. OPETH has been
OPETH since Orchid, but I’d still like to know
if there are any records that were just released or any new
bands that caught your attention or are you more into the classic
stuff?
Per: I’m just a big music nerd and I listen pretty
much to everything. I buy records all the time and lots of new
stuff. And it’s everything from The Herbaliser [Author’s
note: English Funk/Electronica/Hip Hop band] to Deathspell Omega
[Author’s note: French Black Metal band] and everything
in between. I got the following question earlier where someone
told me to mention ten albums from this year that I like. Well,
I like that latest Testament a lot. I think that’s good
as well as the new album by a Japanese band called Boris [Author’s
note: Experimental Rock band who worked together with the Drone
Doom band Sunn O)))] and a great Punk Rock band called the BellRays
from the US, the latest albums from Earth [Author’s note:
Drone Doom godfathers from the US], The Raconteurs with Jack
White from The White Stripes, Motorpsycho, a Norwegian band
– awesome…
Haris:
Do they still exist?
Per: Yes, they do… They’re gonna play the Roadburn
Festival in April. They put out a great album this year, Little
Lucid Moments. Well, that’s lots of music… Yes,
the new album by a female artist called Diamanda Galás…
amazing! So, lot’s of stuff!
Haris:
I remember Diamanda Galás being mentioned in a story
about Atrocity about, like, 14 years ago or so when they released
their Blut album. They wanted to work together with her, but
she was busy at that time, so they had to record the female
parts with the sister of Alex, the vocalist. I think it would
fit fine to your style to work together with Diamanda Galás
some day…
Per: Oh yeah, for OPETH’s music, that would
definitely fit in for some scary parts (laughs). She actually
did something on one Cradle Of Filth album [Author’s note:
she was planned to do guest vocals on Midian in 2000 –
but due to a firm tour schedule she couldn’t work together
with the band].
Haris:
Well, there’s one question left, Per… On the special
edition of Watershed, there is a Marie Fredriksson (former
singer of Roxette) cover version of Den Ständiga Resan.
Did she get to hear that version?
Per: I don’t know if she has heard it. I know that
we talked a little bit about it in the studio – or, not
talked about it, but mentioned – “you have to send
this to her”. I don’t know if Mikael did that or
anything… But I’m pretty sure he would get some
feedback from her if she heard it, as it’s not a song
that any artist or band would usually cover.
Haris:
I showed the track to a friend of mine – first the OPETH
and then the original version and I thought she would be more
into the female vocals, but she said something like: “The
OPETH version is way better!”
Per: (laughs)
Haris:
Well, it’s a matter of taste, but for me, I also prefer
the cover, as I simply love Mikael’s vocals and the way
he plays the lead stuff… I once read that you recorded
an Alice In Chains cover version. Is this planned to be released
some day?
Per: Yes! Digitally on… what date is it today?
Haris:
Today… It’s December, 6.
Per: On December 9… It’s gonna be released as
a digital EP through iTunes and it’s gonna feature that
version of Porcelain Heart called Mellotron Heart
and Would by Alice In Chains and Burden and hopefully
it’s gonna be released as a 7” vinyl single.
Haris:
So, you’re more a vinyl fan?
Per: Well, not really. I like to have something to hold
on to, you know, when you buy something (laughs). No, I’m
not a vinyl freak. I’m just a music collector, I guess.
More so than a collector of formats, if you know what I mean.
Haris:
Well, I know this discussion about vinyl vs. CDs vs. digital
music is old. But, since I’m a child of the vinyl generation,
I bought CDs and MCs when I got into music. I also was interested
in vinyl stuff and bought the one or the other LP, my fave is
Cathedral’s Forest Of Equilibrium with the gatefold sleeve.
And each time I looked at the sleeve, it’s like…
wow!
Per: Yes, it’s definitely a lot more fun to hold and,
you know, look at.
Haris:
Well, I’m quite chaotic, so among the LPs I bought, like,
two already broke, so I guess, CDs are safer for me…
Per: But I think it’s really cool that vinyl is coming
back. And it’s really nice to see that even the record
labels have understood that, you know. For some reason, OPETH
albums have always been released on vinyl as well, which is
cool. I see it with lots of new bands as well. I like that,
I think it’s a great format and the music sounds good.
The reason why I don’t collect vinyl anymore is that I
wanna listen to the music I got and that’s really hard
to bring on the road (laughs). So, it’s a lot easier…
Haris:
You have your iPod with you on tour?
Per: Oh yeah! I wouldn’t survive without it…
(laughs)
Haris:
Well, I forgot my jacket with my mp3 player in it in the car
of the singer of my band last week. And it’s really horrible
not to be able to listen to music while walking.
Per: Well, you have to change that…
Haris:
Okay Per, that was it! Thank you for the interview! And all
the best for the gig tonight and the rest of the tour!
Per: Thank you! Pleased to meet you.