Manifesto
Futurista, the new album by STURMGEIST, indeed
is a true storm full of blazing Black Metal songs. With a unique
lyrical approach, dealing with the Futurist Movement to underline
the fast and crushing music, STURMGEIST (aka Cornelius
v. Jackhelln) also brings fresh wind, or rather thunderstorm,
to the somewhat stagnating Black Metal scene. Time for Nocturnal
Hall’s Bulletrider (aka David ;-)) to achieve more information
from first hand.
David:
Hello Cornelius! Congratulations to your third album Manifesto
Futurista, which is one of my personal highlights of this
year. How were the general reactions to your latest output?
Cornelius: Thanks a bunch! The reactions to Manifesto
Futurista have been mixed, but some have been really
good, such as the 8/10 in Rock Hard and the 10/10 from Nocturnal
Hall! STURMGEIST was supposed to be direct and effective
“Rock’n’Roll” from the outset, with
a tongue-in-cheek sort of attitude. If you add to this that
in the two first albums we played with stereotypes of Germanic
culture - both seriously and irreverently, interchangeably -
I think you have the explanation for the fact that we have always
received sort of mixed reviews. Critics aren’t supposed
to love us. Where SOLEFALD fans you with ostrich feathers, STURMGEIST
is more a fist in the face.
David:
The albums predecessors already were everything but soft, so
the Futurism quoted statement “No work without an aggressive
character can be a masterpiece.” doesn’t necessarily
has to be put equal with Black Metal. So how did this development
from a more stomping electronic to this harsh Black Metal sound
found its way?
Cornelius: I guess mainly the massacre in Finland, where
a guy with the name Sturmgeist89 ran amok, played an important
part. All of a sudden, the funny shit wasn’t so funny
any more, rather “funny”. Also, after Über
the potential of that approach seemed exhausted. I do like the
two first STURMGEIST albums, but the time had come to
change, to evolve. I increasingly think of Meister Mephisto
and Über as albums from the Tankard of Black
Metal... no shit! I always wanted to do a more “true”
album, and with Manifesto Futurista the occasion
presented itself. The Futurist attitude seemed fresh and easily
applicable to NBM (Norwegian Black Metal).
David:
Apart from fellow campaigners from the scene of arts, literature
and music F.T. Marinetti (for the readers: the founder of Futurist
Movement) also had supporters who did choose a more violent
form of upheaval and were to be found among circles of anarchists
etc. Regarding your statement on your Myspace page to the shootings
in Finland you clearly pointed out a “No Violence”
message. So, how is your view towards the more brutal or violent
aspects of these Futurists?
Cornelius: Of course, confronted with a situation escalating
far beyond control, one has to communicate the non-violence
message as clearly as possible. There simply is no other way.
But then I don’t think that the people in question would
listen to me, or anyone else for that matter. As an artist I
don’t like to tell people what to do, or what not to do.
However, when a kid goes amok and kills blindly, one has to
do the little one can. When it comes to Futurism, you don’t
have to approve of the individuals’ actions in order to
appreciate the art. It goes without saying. You can listen to
Gangster Rap without having, and using, a hand gun. The point
is stupid - but true. I invariably find these discussions about
art and morals stupid and simplistic. Ambivalence really is
STURMGEIST’s highest quality, and ruining it with
clear messages is something I would do only in an emergency
situation. November 2007 was such a time.
David:
The drastic and rather violent force of expression of the Futurist
Manifest to a greater point nearly urges a more destructive
style of music. Don’t you find it surprising that –
at least to my knowledge – you are the first Metal musician
choosing this more than fitting theme as a concept?
Cornelius: I thank you for this smart question. It is difficult
not to answer it in an arrogant way. I know that in the past
I have often seemed arrogant in interviews, which isn’t
that cool at all. But: That is the way it goes when you are
active in a genre so conventional and so devoid of imagination.
I mean, since the mid-90s there has been an explosion of creative
and experimental acts, no doubt about that... however, when
that obvious and simple little Futurist idea hasn’t ever
been used after 40 years of rock music? WTF? Futurism used to
be the Black Metal of the art world... so I do think they go
well together. Pure provocation, pure primal power. Maybe Thrash
Metal or Speed Metal would be a more fitting musical vehicle
for Futurism, given the precedents of Megadeth and Nuclear Assault...
but hell, we did it with STURMGEIST! And I’m quite
happy about that.
David:
„We will glorify war - the world’s only hygiene
- militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers,
beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman.“
In my opinion this is one of the major and most distinct statements
of the Futurist Manifesto. How would you transport this message
to the modern time?
Cornelius: First of all, forget about the “scorn for
woman”. Several women were affiliated with the Futuristi.
I think they must have referred to the horrendous qualities
traditionally associated with femininity, such as passivity
and obedience. Needless to say, I don’t approve of such
a view! Futurism was all about action, power and technology.
Speed! Movement! Frenzy! Aggression! Anything but the dreary
calm of bourgeois living. Transposing the Futurist aesthetic
today necessarily implies some moral consideration, despite
my statement above. If you consider art as a free zone, the
road to Neo-Futurism lies open. I mean, all of our countries
are currently at war. Jens Stoltenberg, Norway’s newly
re-elected Prime Minister, is a Social Democrat, and at the
same time leading soldiers at war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Denmark,
Germany, the UK and the US - they are all at war in different
countries. That is why I find it so hypocritical to attack artists
who merely paint, talk or write about war. We don’t kill
anyone - we render and reinterpret the violence that we exposed
to, directly or indirectly.
David:
Did some specific artists of the days of Futurism, be it in
terms of literature, paintings or music have an influence on
you or does your interest mainly lie in the actual message of
the Futurist Movement?
Cornelius: My main interest certainly lies in the aesthetics
of the Futurist Manifesto. But I do like the poetry of F.T.
Marinetti, and the paintings of Giacomo Balla - pure speed in
two dimensions! The creativity and imagination of the Futurists
are nothing less than amazing - be sure to check out the Futurist
cookbook!
David:
So now let’s head to the actual music on Manifesto
Futurista. Apart from the title-track – which songs
are most clearly influenced by the Movement, either in lyrical
or musical hindsight?
Cornelius: The title track of the album, Manifesto Futurista,
quite clearly. Thematically, it is quite similar to Deep Purple’s
Speed King or Metallica’s Motorbreath. Singing about speed
and motors went out of fashion in Metal in the 1980s. It is
a shame - because it is great fun!
David:
What has impressed me personally the most on Manifesto Futurista
is the blazing spirit of rebellion, a fire sparked by the music.
Many of today’s Black Metal bands seem to lose this blazing
spirit and are more and more striving to express a form of depression
and bleakness. What do you personally think of these Suicide-
or Ambient Black Metal bands?
Cornelius: My drummer Vincent has presented Xasthur to me,
to which I have listened a bit. It is very hard to listen to.
Depression is seeping in through every pore. Personally, I am
more into intense and energetic music. The whole suicide thing,
I stay clear of it. Though I can imagine working on a book with
a character and listening to such stuff. If music could be dangerous
(psychologically speaking), I would bet on the slow, sorrowful
stuff. Soo depressing! STURMGEIST is party music in comparison.
All the time I have tried to get away from the passivity (wrong
word, but hopefully you get the point) of the Black Metal aesthetics
and explore more of an extrovert, direct attitude. This means:
Speed, technology, power, warfare and so on. It is more about
lacing those running shoes and cruise around in the forest for
an hour, rather than sitting on the floor, slashing your arm
with a razor. Maybe I will do an athletics album in the future
- wouldn’t that be great (ab-so-lute-ly!!!; the author)?
I know most Black Metal people would shiver at the very idea
- and I like that reaction! Music should surprise you, shake
you, and bring some STURM into life!
David:
Songs like The Siegfried Order and Let Us Be The Suns
Of Our Time definitely protrude from the fast and harsh
Black Metal tracks. What is The Siegfried Order and how can
we figuratively become these shining suns?
Cornelius: The Siegfried Order is an imagined order
of warlords, really another excuse for a display of that bellicose
rhetoric which fits Extreme Metal so perfectly. Let Us Be
the Suns Of Our Time expresses the extrovert attitude I
referred to above, it is a song exalting community and brotherhood,
the forward and outbound movement:
Let Us Be
the Suns Of Our Time (lyric excerpt)
Victors
and villains come with me
Let us be the suns of our time
Pull the golden strings of empire
Deliver light to minded darkness
March with
me across the map
We shall make emotion known
Comrades,
brothers we will climb
Skyscrapers mountains cities of the world
Crawl the desert like lizards and panzers
Roam the ocean like dolphins and subs
Capitals
await us with open arms
Vent the joy of conquered honey
So how does
one become the sun of one’s time? Although this sounds
grandiose and heroic, the idea behind the song is to open up
for emotions and experiences, embracing the unknown, live life
with passion and the empathy that comes with it. I will sound
like an ad writer if I continue, but wtf: Live your life today,
forget about everything and everyone that keeps you down. Seek
the joy of freedom. If ever I had a message to convey, that
would be it.
David:
Apart from these songs Ritorno Glorioso surely has to
be mentioned explicitly. Being a fan of Martial Industrial and
Neo-Classic stuff I really love this track. Are you also a listener
of this music genres or do you stay with the classics like Wagner
& Co.?
Cornelius: To be honest, I mostly listen to classical music.
Still, I used to listen to Arcana and Dead Can Dance as a teenager.
Lisa Gerrard’s The Mirror Pool stands out as one of the
most treasured albums in my collection. Michael Berberian of
Season Of Mist played Karjalan Sissit to me - very haunting
and monumental Finnish wilderness!
David:
How would you describe your personal taste of music and what
can we find in your CD or MP3 player?
Cornelius: I am currently discovering Köld, the new
album of Icelanders Solstafir. They are friends and I love those
guys, both on and off stage. As I write this, I am listening
to Norwegian Folk Music at the radio - which I adore at times.
My collection is pretty schizo, as you can imagine - but quite
varied. You will find at least a couple of albums of most genres,
such as Blues, Jazz, Classical, Hip Hop, Electro, Pop, Indie
- and of course a bunch of all kinds of Metal. Nowadays I mostly
listen to metal as I run. Unfortunately I am quite stuck in
what I listened to in my teens; my taste is becoming increasingly
repetitive. Motörhead’s Ace Of Spades and At The
Gates’ Slaughter Of The Soul rank as my all-time favorites.
David:
Besides your activities as a musician you are also active in
the field of literature and also released a couple of books.
Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be German or English
translation of these. What is the content of these books and
will we have the chance for a broader publishing in the near
future?
Cornelius: I have published seven literary books, presently
working on a philosophical treatise about anger. Very excited
about that! It is a commissioned work that should be out sometime
in 2010. In my bibliography you will find poetry, novels and
a children’s book. As of yet, I am only translated into
Finnish and Swedish. I really hope this will change in the future.
Many of my friends and acquaintances don’t read Scandinavian
languages.
David:
When neither making music nor writing books – which books
or movies to you enjoy in your spare time (if you have it at
all…)? Is there also some more trivial stuff to be found
or are they all of a more spiritual or philosophical nature?
Cornelius: I like to watch a variety of movies; lately I
have seen Inglourious Basterds, A Fistful Of Dollars, Full Metal
Jacket, Fraulein Raffke and Alphaville - that may give you an
idea. My good friend Gaston regularly shows films at his home
in Kreuzberg. It is a great way to spend an evening, I think.
David:
All of your projects are highly creative, even spiritual in
some way and to high amount very sophisticated and ambitious.
Are you more likely to stay in your own apartment/rooms or do
you also hit the streets to enjoy Berlin’s nightlife?
Cornelius: Of course work occupies an important part of
my time, at home or in libraries. Nevertheless, I often bike
around in Berlin, going to different places and parties. I try
to balance the need for solitude and going out - which sort
of works. Berlin is such a great place to live; it would be
stupid not to exploit it! Wirklich!
David:
Is there anything else you would like to say to the public?
Cornelius: Thanks for your interest in STURMGEIST.
You may want to check out the releases from my label Inhuman
Music, the darkcore/electro project G.U.T., My Only Drug Is
Madness and the SOLEFALD remix album The Circular Drain. And
if you like STURMGEIST you should of course check out
Manifesto Futurista! All of my albums are available through
iTunes.
David:
Thank you for your time and your interesting and detailed answers.