Actually
I had planned to see a great concert with TRISTANIA,
Rotting Christ, Vintersorg and Madder Mortem and to do a live
review and an interview with TRISTANIA afterwards.
For that I even went to Tilburg's 013 in Holland because the only
show in NRW was already booked-up for interviews. With an exactly
order I started. But, anyway, it seems I'm always under Murphey's
law. Things came - again - completely in an other way... So this
event got startet already in the afternoon at 4pm for example.
I was there - according to the order - on time at 6pm which gave
the following result: I missed the first bands (what is a shame
because of Madder Mortem) and because there still were some things
to work out with the press pass, I only saw the half of the Rotting
Christ show. Hmmm, ok, at least the live review was gone down
the drain then. At least the things went well with that interview.
An half hour after the show I could grill Anders Høyvik
Hidle (songwriter and guitars ) and Østen Bergøy
(clean vocals ).
(remark: the first three answers are not literal, just analogously,
because the dictating machine deigned to strike - Cal)
Dajana:
There was pretty a mess because of the replacement of Morten Veland.
In the studio Ronny Thorsen of Trail Of Tears helped out. Now,
Ølsten Bergøy is back again (you might know him
as guest singer on the Angellore song from Widow's
Weed album). The real new entry is Kjetil Ingebrethsen, isn't
he?
Anders: Yes, I expected this question ... Actually we don't
want to talk about that too much. It is just that there were musical
differences. And Morten had to leave the band. It wasn't easy
for us afterwards, because Morten was the main songwriter. But,
I think, in the end it was the best for the band.
Dajana: Are Østen and Kjetil tight band members now?
Østen:
Yes, we are.
Dajana:
Were there serious differences in songwriting because of the line-up
changes?
Anders:
Yes,
of course. How I said, Morten was one of the composers. And because
of the line-up changes we are a different band now. Me and Einar
have composed all new songs this time. We also have developed
and changed our music. We use a lot more different and various
elements now. It is important to us to develop our music.
Dajana:
How did the line-up for this tour come about ? I mean, actually
in the past we were used to seeing TRISTANIA on tour with other
gloomy darkish bands like Anathema, TSOTB ... etc.
Anders:
That
is a thing of the booking agencies and labels. We got the chance
to do this tour with Rotting Christ, Madder Mortem and Vintersorg
and it is our headlining tour. Of course it is great.
Dajana: Why have you booked a studio in (South)France?
Østen: Actually it is the same studio where we recorded
the previous albums.
Anders: We also recorded Beyond The
Veil and Widow's Weed
at the Sound Suite Studios. They only kept us from that. After
the recordings of Beyond The Veil the
producer T.Refsnes removed the whole studio then to France. And
we went off to him, because with the time we became better and
better with him. So we wanted to use him this time as well.
Dajana:
Was there a lot of pressure to compose/ produce a better album
than the previous one?
Anders:
Yes,
of course we felt a pressure. Because Beyond The Veil
was a success in every way. And it would be really easy for us
just to make a copy of that album. Just like a Beyond
The Veil Part II. But, that wouldn't have felt right
for us, because it is important for us to have a development between
the albums. And I think that is the strength of World
Of Glass that we have managed to develop our sound,
but still sounding like TRISTANIA. So, of course
there was a pressure but, I think, we did the right thing for
what we go for.
Dajana:
Were there preconditions, specifications or something like that
through the label?
Anders:
No, they didn't say anything about it. It's an artistic thing
about the band. They are just a label and we could never be on
a label that tells us what music we have to make. That wouldn't
be the right for us.
Dajana:
Would you agree with compromises for a major deal?
Anders: No, never! We make the music we feel, we like to make.
That's the main thing. We like music. We always do that, in the
future as well. To go for commercial reasons or a label I think
it is a stupid thing to do because we have an own sound and I
think our main priority is to develop that sound and to do what
we feel for and not to listen to a label. We are now on Napalm
Records. We got offers of quiete many record labels, but this
is a label, who told us, if we would sign to this label we would
go that way and that direction we wanted to sign and that's that.
Dajana:
Corresponds the result of your work on new tracks with that you
have planned before or were there new influences and new developments
while you were writing and composing?
Anders: Actually
the response (little misunderstanding ...*lol* - Cal) for World
Of Glass has been very good. And much more than
we had expected. We don't think that much about that before we
make an album, when you are really into the process, you know?
And that's the main thing. Of course it is nice when you see that
the album is in the charts or when you see that all the reviews
are great instead of that. But that isn't the most important thing,
the most important thing is that we are satisfied with that and
that we feel it. This album sounds like us.
Dajana:
And during the recordings, did you have special goals for the
songs, ideas and that ? What you wanted to do?
Anders:
Before
we enter the studio we have kind of some quite busy months with
composing. And it is not like before we composing we don't sit
down and say "...hey what kind of music do we want to make
this time?". The thing is that we just make music. It's a
cliché but it's true that there are two kinds of music.
So we don't care which category people put us in. I think, what
we tried to do this time as before was just to make music that
we like. And if all the people like that, it's really cool. That's
what you want of course. I think it is quite important that there
is a personal development and that we do our own thing and then
the reviews can come and blah blah blah, but the most important
think is, how it sounds of course.
Dajana:
What do you think about the future of Gothic Metal in general?
A lot of old and established bands are already trying longer time
more or less sucessfully to get out of this genre. Do you think
this style is a one way or dead end street now?
Anders:
I
don't know if it is a dead end street, but I think a few years
ago the labels opened their eyes for Gothic Metal because they
sold that to make money. I think the biggest problem is that the
labels have signed way too many bands. And the problem is then,
that many of these new bands lack of originality and an own sound.
I think in the end you will see who will survive or not. Gothic
Metal, we don't feel like a Gothic Metal band actually. I think
the Gothic part is just one aspect of Tristania. We have many
other sides as well, because we are influenced by a many different
things. So I think you would be actually wrong when you call us
as a Gothic Metal band.
Dajana:
Is anything planned in the matter of videos?
Anders:
Are there any plans for videos ?
Østen: I don't think so.
Anders: We will make a video in the future of course, but
not for World Of Glass.
Dajana:
Oh, why not?
Anders:
I don't know, why not. Actually we won't do it, if we don't know
that it will be a good video. There is a video for Evenfall
and it isnt't the biggest video either. But I don't think it is
a personal point to make a video just to make a video. You have
to have a cool concept for it and you have to have the right track
and you have to use a lot of moneys. So, of course, when we sign
a new label or resign Napalm Records in any case it's possible
to make a video.
Østen:
But it is better with no video at all than a bad video.
Dajana:
How to handle this expanded life on tour? Is there still any private
life? Do you still have time for your families, friends and any
hobbies?
Anders:
Like you can assume, there is not much. Of course we have to find
a balance for that.
Østen: In the summer we got jobs. It is not like
that we make a lot of moneys right now. So everything has to fit
to everybody. And we are 7 persons now. There is space for other
things if you take the time for it. But, right, there is not much
time.
Anders: The most important thing is all the members of
Tristania their main priority is Tristania! And I think the rule
for the band to exist is that everyone is really into it and everyone's
dream is to be more on tour and go of course, that's any band's
mission.
Dajana:
How is it on tour with Vibeke? Do fans and other bandmembers still
to get off with her? Does she get immoral offers? How do you (all)
deal with that?
Østen:
She's
one of us.
Anders: We don't think about that. When we are staying
at the bus, when we are at the show. We don't think about, there
is a girl in a band, between us, in a special way. Because she
is one of us and we all are having fun together. And that's why
we like to be on tour as well.
Dajana:
I can imagine, when Vibeke is among the crowds before or after
the show that people, especially men of course, try to give her
the come-on.
Anders:
Vibeke
is very disciplined though, that is not a problem because she
got a boyfriend so that is not a problem.
Dajana:
How do you deal with that when there are stupid sayings from the
crowds during the show like undress calls?
Anders:
Normally
we don't hear stupid sayings from the crowds during the shows.
Dajana:
But I can remember. Yes, I still can remember of some of the stupid
postings. It was on tour with Anathema and Tiamat in Germany ...
Anders:
Ok, if there is any we don't care about it. That's their problem.
Østen: The audience are not that kind of fans who
want to post these shouts or nasty things.
Dajana:
Is it easy for Vibeke to be alone on tour as woman?
Anders:
I
think she can deal with it much better than the most girls. Because
our touring situation is a special thing. It is not like any other
things in a life or something else. She deals with it much better
than any girl I know actually.
Dajana:
I just know that from Tarja from Nightwish. When she is a long
time on a tour, alone as woman, she's getting kinda mad after
a few weeks ...
Anders:
Everyone has needs and everyone has its own personality. And the
thing is, the members of our band get along together very good.
Then we have a good talk, what we talk about and when we had line-up
changes in the band as well. It's all about, when you play in
a band you can record an album when you are no friends, but the
thing is when you're going on tour you are really close to eachother
and then you have to like all the other members of the band. Because
you life so close together, you see their fucking faces every
morning.
Dajana:
With which musicians / artists you would like to share the stage
or to set anything up?
Anders:
As support?
Dajana:
For example ...
Anders:
I don't know. I think the last tour we did with Anathema and Tiamat
was really good for us, because I think right now we are in the
position to have a better view between a headlining tours and
also to do as support acts for bigger bands. Of course, a tour
with Type O Negative or My Dying Bride would be really good. We
want both things. It is neccessary to do headling shows and it
is neccessary to do support acts to be showed to new people.
Dajana:
On November a new Green Carnation album is coming up. Is Vibeke
going to be part of it again?
Anders:
No. She never has been a part of Green Carnation.
Dajana:
But she did sing on the last album ...
Anders:
Yes, she was just a guest musician on the album. But the thing
is their label, their promotion and their work for that album.
It was like a new band of ... blah blah ... Emperor and Vibeke
from Tristania and ... blah blah blah. The thing is she knew a
couple of guys and she said yes to join the studio and to help
them out. But I think, their record label has done a quite shitty,
sleazy promotion for that album, because in all big magazines
it was called as a new band of Vibeke from Tristania. So of course,
she doesn't want to do it again. That's why she doesn't appear
on that new album.
Dajana:
What was your most embarrassing event so far on tour?
Anders:
[laughing] ... what kind of question is that? No idea ... um ...
no idea. 99% of the members on tour are really good because we
like them on tour. And ... I don't know ... I don't know any embarrassing
event.
Dajana:
TRISTANIA was a long time an insider's tip of this scene, to get
terrifically popular extremely fast then. How do you judge this
development, how did it feel for you?
Anders:
Of course it is great. That's why we play in a band, that's a
dream. I was 17 years old then when we got this record deal in
1997 and of course that's a big thing. I think we have been with
the right music at the right time and I also think that we have
been extremely lucky with everything that it has gone very quick
with us. I think it is quiete important when the band is growing,
that you have in your mind, when your are lucky in this position,
not to turn into a rock star. It is very important, to feel your
ground and just to enjoy the whole situation. If I start to fly,
then I have a problem I think.
Dajana:
Have things changed a lot in this time because of that?
Anders:
Yes, of course they have.
Dajana:
What things?
Anders:
In every way. We had have the line-up changes. The band now is
totally different from the band with Morten. I think we are more
common now when we are on tour. I think for us this tour is very
imprtant because we are having a good time and that's what I told
about, to enjoy.
Dajana:
Do you notice any differences between how the audience is treating
you, dealing with you now and in the past?
Anders:
I think the audience so far has been very good. But I also think
that we have something to prove because one of our main songwriter
is away. And we have a new line-up, so of course we have something
to prove. But we tried to be ... um ... we start with a totally
new sound on World Of Glass. And people
don't know that sound. So people are wondering, what is this,
what is over ? And then you see that they like it and then you
get a good communication between the band and the crowds.
Østen:
There is also a differences between the countries. The German
audience is not too much into the new thing. It seems like they
want more the harder parts than here in Holland and also in Belgium.
The crowds have been great!
Anders: But also The World Of Glass,
some of the songs are probably the hardest we ever made. And some
of the songs are softer. So, I see the people in different countries
are into different kind of songs. Each crowd has its own favourits.
But all in all it is really good.
Dajana:
If I have noticed it right, you just have played 2 new songs?
Anders:
3.
Dajana:
Why not more?
Anders:
Because of the late release date of the album. The album was released
when we already were on tour. So it doesn't make sense when you
see the crowds are not into the new songs, just into them they
know. We play for the fans and not for ourselves. So we had to
find a balance to play some new songs and it's also important
to play songs from Beyond The Veil and
Widow's Weed because they know them.
Østen: If we would have start our tour maybe one
month later after the album release, of course we would play more
of the new songs. And when we are at home in November at this
one show then, we will play more new songs then.
Dajana:
Apropos, is there any competition between TRISTANIA and The Sins
Of Thy Beloved? I mean, your band histories are pretty similiar
at least.
Anders:
I
don't know. I think we are not the same at all. I think that are
2 completely different bands. We are friends, we know them well.
I guess our previous releases have more commons with TSOTB than
this new one. They are cool people and it doesn't has any effect
on the direction the band is going. We don't care about, what
other bands are doing or what music they make. You can't think
that way when you are recording a good album. There is just one
thing to hope that people like it.
Østen: Music is not a competition. Not to us.
Short
cuts:
Your
favourite food and beer?
Anders:
Beer ? Heineken is pretty good (that's what they are drinking
all the time - Cal)
Østen: We drink whatever they serve us.
Your
favourite album ? Last album you have bought?
Østen: New Anathema album.
Anders: Yeah, new Anathema album is really good. For me
the album of the year until now is Muse - Origin Of Symmetry.
And beside of that all of us are into different kind of music.
We listen from Black Metal to Classic. The varieties in music
is really important to us. So, I think it is a good thing to be
open minded.
Last
show ( not your own of course )?
Anders:
I saw TRITANIA tonight ... (wow, didn't expect
that *lol* - Cal)
Østen: Last show I have seen was a Finnish girl
punk band called Thee Ultra Bimboos. They were really good.
Anders:
Last show I have seen was Coldplay and The Dandy Warhol's at a
festival in Norway.
Dajana:
What about Wacken Open Air? You played there 2 years ago?
Anders:
Yes,
in 1999. We will try to come back next year. Because of the album
recording and line-up changes we had to cancel all the festivals
this year. We played a lot festivals in the past until 2000 in
Europe, what was really cool. It's a big opportunity to reach
out to the fans. We already have booked some festivals for the
next sommer. And I hope we will play many other festivals in Europe
too.
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